Morrison's Pensions


Pension Application for John Schram

W.24,914 (Widow: Lany)
State of New York
Pension was granted to John Schram at the rate of $64.74 per annum and then to Lany his widow at the rate of $20 per annum.  Then their daughter Lydia Shults applied for pension.
State of New York
Montgomery County SS.
(Transcribers note:  This pension has a lot of bleed through from the back side of the pages and it is nearly impossible to decipher.)
            On this 20th day of September 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the said County now sitting John Schram, a resident of the Town of Palatine in the County aforesaid aged seventy three years the second day of Sept instant who being first duly sworn according to law; doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832; that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers in the revolutionary war in the Militia of the State of New York & served as herein stated.
            That abut the 15 Sept. 1776 he entered the service in the company whereof Jeremiah Miller was captain [?] or Jacob Hiller was the Lieutenant & Cornelius Fonda of said company in the Regiment whereof Robert Van Ransellaer was the Colonel, Richard Van Eps[?] Major & [?] Van Allen was 2d [?] of said regiment & he served in said company & Regt for six weeks & left said service about the first of November thereafter—that he when he entered said service he resided in the Town of Claverack now County of Columbia in said state that he entered as aforesaid the service as a volunteer & private—that he marched during said six weeks in said company from Claverack aforesaid to White Hall then called Skeensborough one Skeen? A Tory was made a prisoner there & he assisted in guarding & taking him at [?] Town—There was a Continental Regt at White Hall at the time but can’t now remember what Regt, cannot recollect nor does he remember the names of any of the Continental officers there at White Hall—about the first of November 1776 he left said service & returned from the said six weeks service for which he volunteered having expired.
            About the 27 or 28 of May 1777 he volunteered again as a private for six months in the same company & Regt aforesaid the same officers before named commanding the said last mentioned company & Regiment—that he served said six months & left the service the last of November or first of December 1777 – that when he entered last mentioned service he resided at Claverack in the now County of Columbia – that during said six months service he assisted in the engagement or battle against Gen’l Burgoyne at Saratoga when he surrendered to the American Army—that he saw at Saratoga assisted by Col. Benedict Arnold, Generals Schuyler & Gates—that before the Battle he marched in said company from Claverack where he entered to White-Hall & retreated with the Americans down that Creek in the North River to [?] where there was a skirmish according to his recollection between the Americans & British forces & the American forces retreating to Half Moon Point on Van Schaick Island & after he marched to Saratoga where as before stated the battle with Burgoyne was had when he surrendered--& shortly after returned home his six months service having expired.—That about the first of August 1778, he again reentered into the Service of his Country for three months and the company whereof one Staath (who  Christian [name] he has forgotten was Capt. & he cannot bring to his recollection the names of the other company officers of said company—that he has forgotten the names of the officers of the Regiment to which said company belonged—that he resides at Claverack aforesaid when he entered last mentioned service—that during said three months service he marched from Claverack aforesaid to Cherry Valley & where there was a Continental Regiment but what and by whom commanded or officered he cannot say—that at the expiration of said three months he [?] home & left the service about tenth of November 1778.
            That about the first of August 1779, he again volunteered as a private in the Company [?] James Van Allen was one Van Buren was Lieutenant, James Wyngart 2d Lieutenant in the Regiment commanded by Col Abraham Van Alstine, Philip Van Alstine 2d Colonel & Isaac Goes Major of said Regt. for four months—he served said four months & left said last mentioned service after the middle of December having served rather more than said four months when he left & went home—that eh resided at Kinderhook in the now County of Columbia where he entered said last mentioned service—that during said four months service he marched from Kinderhook in said company to the Fish Creek where the company was discharged (as he understood) by Genl. Washington whom he there saw with the American Soldiers, near West Point.
            That about the first of Sept. 1780 he volunteered again as a private in the company whereof Jeremiah Miller was Captain, James Wyngart was Lieutenant, Abraham Van Alstine was Colonel of the Regt. to which said company belonged, Isaac Goes was Major thereof—that he resided in the Town of Kinderhook when he entered last mentioned service for eight weeks—that his company marched from Kinderhook to Albany thence to Schenectady, thence to then Town of Palatine where he was in the skirmish or battle again & Sir John Johnson & Col. Brandt commanding the British, Tories, & Indians—that Genl Van Ransselaer commanded the American forces & that he left the last mentioned service about the first of November 1780 when he had served at least eighty weeks as last aforesaid—That about 15th Sept 1781 he again volunteered for three weeks in the company whereof James Van Allen was Capt.—one Van Buren was Lieutenant in the Regt of Col. [?] Van Alstine whereof Philip Van Alstine was 2d Col. & Isaac Goes Major for three weeks—that he served said three weeks & left said last mentioned service about the eight day of October 1781—that during said three weeks service the said company in which he was as a private marched from Kinderhook where he resided when he entered said last mentioned service, to a place then called the Halls barrack—when said three weeks service had expired he returned home—saw no Continental or state officers during said last service except as aforesaid—that as a volunteer he served in Capt. James Van Allen Company & as a private from the first of November 1781 to the end of the war of the revolution except three months each winter in each year—that is he believes & has no doubt that he served each month from first of November 1781 to the year 1785 or thereabouts twenty days (excepting three winter months each year)  that Van Buren was Lieutenant & James Wyngart Ensign of said last mentioned company—in the Regt whereof Abraham Van Alstine was Col. 2d Col. Philip Van Alstine & Isaac Goes Major thereof that during said last mentioned service he was marched with the company to which he belonged in & about the now County of Columbia—that he saw during said service at or near Kinderhook in the said now County of Columbia Col. Gose Van Schaick with some forces & soldier & saw there & then Continental officers (he thinks) but cannot name any--& also during said last mentioned service he went express several times from Kinderhook to Albany towards the end of the war—that he left said last mentioned service when hostilities ceased, & he thinks sometime in the year 1783—and in answer to the interrogatories of the court he says he was born the 6th? Day of Sept. 1759—that he has no record except a copy of a record of his age which is in Court & that he lived at Claverack & Kinderhook in the now County of Columbia when called into services—that since the revolutionary war he has resided where he now resides in the said County of Montgomery—that he served as a volunteer that he saw at Saratoga where he served Col. Arnold, Genls Schuyler & Gates—that he saw Genl. Washington at the Fish Creek near West Point when he served & was marched there from Kinderhook—that he saw Genl Van Ransselaer where he served & was marched to then Town of Palatine where the skirmish or battle was fought against Sir John Johnson & Col Brandt that he cannot further state the circumstances of his service, than he has stated in his foregoing declaration & statement—does not know [?] ever since discharge—if he did must have lost the same –that he is known to Nicholas Smith & John Nellis neighbors of his who can testify as to his character for veracity & their belief of my services as a soldier of the revolution that no clergyman resides in his neighborhood—that he has no documentary evidence & that he knows of no person except Henry Schram whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service—He hereby relinquishes every claim of a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state & that said Henry Schram evidence of his service whereinto annexed.  (Signed with his mark)  John Schram
            Sworn & subscribed this 20th day of Sept 18 1832 before said in open court.  Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk.

State of New York
Montgomery County SS.
            On this 25th day of September 1838 personally appeared before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said County (being a court of record)  Lany Schram a resident of the town of Palatine in the County of Montgomery and State of New York aged 74 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled “An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows”.  That she is the widow of John Schram who was a private in the army of the revolution and whose name as this applicant has good reason to believe will appear on the pension list roll at the War Department of the Unites States under the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 and the proof of his services will fully appear referencing that to his original declaration and the papers accompanying the same now on file at the said War Department and on which she this applicant rests her claim.
            She further declares that she was married to the said John Schram on the fifth day of September in the year Seventeen hundred and Eighty nine that her said husband the aforesaid John Schram died on the 5th day of October Eighteen hundred and thirty six, that she was not married to him prior to his leaving thes ervice, but the marriage too place previous to the first of January seventeen hundred and ninety four viz: at the time above stated.  (Signed with her mark)  Lany Schram
            Sworn to and Subscribed on the day and year above written before me.  Stephen Yates, one of the Judges of Montgomery County Courts.

Copy of the Record of the Reformed Protestant Church of Kinderhook as Continued by the Rev. Isaac Labagh pastor of said church.
            No. 1  Johannes Schram getrowt met Lana Clauw Den, fifth September on thousand seven hundred eithty nin.
            No. l John Schram married with Lena Clau the fifth September one thousand seven hundred eighty nine—
            I Henry L. Van Dyck do hereby certify that the above is a true copy of the Record as contained in the church book of record as contained in the church book of Record of the reformed protestant Dutch Church at Kinderhook County of Columbia & State of New York with the except of the date which is expressed on the record in fair legible figures as follows—“5 Sept 1789”—Dated at Kinderhook 6th October 1838—Henry L. Van Dyck Clerk of the Consistory of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church in Kinderhook.

Part of the Pension Application in PDF format. (Sorry about the way it appears, but that was the third attempt. The program does as it pleases. There are four pages, not six in PDF.)

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